3 notes & October 25, 2010 Prudishness and Deviance: Sexual Content in Anime monday, october 25, 2010 2038h owen s:incest is one of the hallmarks of anime pretty sure Japan overdoes it compared to TV/movies in UK/US ghostlightning:moar like, anime has for the longest time owen s:a tradition of incest? haha ghostlightning:indulged in titillating fetishes and incest is just one of them owen s:true true ghostlightning:this time loli incest lololol but yeah owen s:no she's not even loli wtf isn't she like highschool doujins have consistently illustrated her with breasts ghostlightning:let me tell you what i think owen s:Sakura Kinomoto is loli ok ghostlightning:first, 11 year olds start budding breasts i've had schoolmates not too rare owen s:she's 14 that's too old for shin ghostlightning:i'm saying breasts aren't too big an issue here the thing is many of these 'older' characters are depicted deliberately in a loli style they are made to look younger than they are owen s:looooooool i have got him ghostlightning:which to me, is just as indicative of the fetish for loli you can have a bazillion year old character owen s:but loli is a specific fetish ghostlightning:but she is attractive to otaku owen s:you can't just say "evokes loli-esque" and directly equates it to loli the ephebophilia thing is still valid ghostlightning:because she looks like a little girl owen s:it's not some dichotomy between lolis and milfs in anime! little girls don't have hips this is how all teenage girls in anime look like wtf ghostlightning:ephebophilia is a peculiar thing because it was quite normal for 15 year olds to marry until sometime in the 20th century i am attracted to teenagers no sense in denying such owen s:I see ghostlightning:but pre-teens, despite manifestations of puberty squick me out owen s:wait what so wth is "teen" then ghostlightning:teen is 13+ owen s:yes so she is a teen wtf ghostlightning:i remember fapping to teenagers when i was a teenagers (lol the humbert humbert defense) owen s:I dunno I think a lot of people seem to just tar everything with the same brush and can't even tell anymore what's loli and what's not ghostlightning:but I've no doubt that this isn't deviant owen s:we're still talking about oreimo right ghostlightning:you see, 18 as a legal age is arbitrary it is a matter of policy, and not nature informed by mostly religious morality that said, it is also fair to say, that the laws protect these youths who are more vulnerable to assault or harassment from adults who cannot defend themselves or redress themselves on the same terms ergo the state provides them rights and protection i think this is fair but it is also not natural so do I disagree with the moral grounds? no but do I understand them? yes i sympathize with the moral grounds against underage sexualization by adults but i do not think it is unnatural for adults to lust after teenagers it is not deviant in my eyes now, to anime owen s:eheheh I hope you never have to give this speech to your wife for whatever reason ghostlightning:the little sister is indeed a teenager but in many ways (I suspect) she acts like a little girl when she isn't acting like an otaku a male otaku so the tone indeed is titillating, and plays to the loli fetish, on top of the ephebophilia fetish it isn't just one thing owen s:should make this into a post imo but I get your point ghostlightning:revolutionary girl utena is ironically easier to forgive, because you know it is fucking with you Filed under lolicon incest oreimo revolutionary girl utena